Re: Grimtale Records
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:09 am
anonymousbrunette wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:49 pm These have lost zero personal value to me. Don't know what you're talking about.
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anonymousbrunette wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:49 pm These have lost zero personal value to me. Don't know what you're talking about.
The ones with personal value yeah. But look at how many people made FS and ISO lists that were like ISO Grim009, there was so little personal value on most of the releases that people wouldn't bother to put band names in there. Just check lists of collectors trying to catch them all. While not all of you hit that mode, I know many people did. Paid silly money for some of the releases and then lost interest later. So yes 3 of the releases of great personal value to me and won't leave the collection.... the rest were like pokemon and the fad has passeddylnfan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:09 amanonymousbrunette wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:49 pm These have lost zero personal value to me. Don't know what you're talking about.
I agree this has happened with lots of labels over the last few years. TMR is an excellent example as we can all see how Dead Swirl is here in general. But yeah I think once any label shutters its doors and stops releasing new stuff it often really hurts the market. But again thats not just this hobby, for instance I collect art work by Olly Moss and as he has changed career paths and stopped making print art it has really put a damper on the demand for his previous worker that at one time (similar to grimtale releases) was very in demand. But once again with both his stuff, the best and brightest pieces still are very much in demand, its the lesser pieces that people wanted just for the "whole set" that dropped.Grimtale wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:47 pm Hasn't this been the case with every indie label releases? I don't think the phenomenon you are describing is unique to Grimtale, I think its indicative of the whole vinyl/indie/limited edition craze we have all gone through the past few years. No different than TMR or any other indie label I've followed.
I thought Swirl declined because a few assholes made it a pretty unpleasant place for a while and someone decided to create a Facebook cult that while saccharine and vapid seemed more appealing than hanging out with a bunch of cranky collectors. But I could be wrong.Stl_ben wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:20 pmI agree this has happened with lots of labels over the last few years. TMR is an excellent example as we can all see how Dead Swirl is here in general. But yeah I think once any label shutters its doors and stops releasing new stuff it often really hurts the market. But again thats not just this hobby, for instance I collect art work by Olly Moss and as he has changed career paths and stopped making print art it has really put a damper on the demand for his previous worker that at one time (similar to grimtale releases) was very in demand. But once again with both his stuff, the best and brightest pieces still are very much in demand, its the lesser pieces that people wanted just for the "whole set" that dropped.Grimtale wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:47 pm Hasn't this been the case with every indie label releases? I don't think the phenomenon you are describing is unique to Grimtale, I think its indicative of the whole vinyl/indie/limited edition craze we have all gone through the past few years. No different than TMR or any other indie label I've followed.
I would say that was for sure one reason it declined. Another being the old school fans have moved on. The biggest probably just being all message boards are dying. Facebook has killed them as its just so much more convenient for most people.anonymousbrunette wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:34 pmI thought Swirl declined because a few assholes made it a pretty unpleasant place for a while and someone decided to create a Facebook cult that while saccharine and vapid seemed more appealing than hanging out with a bunch of cranky collectors. But I could be wrong.Stl_ben wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:20 pmI agree this has happened with lots of labels over the last few years. TMR is an excellent example as we can all see how Dead Swirl is here in general. But yeah I think once any label shutters its doors and stops releasing new stuff it often really hurts the market. But again thats not just this hobby, for instance I collect art work by Olly Moss and as he has changed career paths and stopped making print art it has really put a damper on the demand for his previous worker that at one time (similar to grimtale releases) was very in demand. But once again with both his stuff, the best and brightest pieces still are very much in demand, its the lesser pieces that people wanted just for the "whole set" that dropped.Grimtale wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:47 pm Hasn't this been the case with every indie label releases? I don't think the phenomenon you are describing is unique to Grimtale, I think its indicative of the whole vinyl/indie/limited edition craze we have all gone through the past few years. No different than TMR or any other indie label I've followed.
<3I thought Swirl declined because a few assholes made it a pretty unpleasant place for a while and someone decided to create a Facebook cult that while saccharine and vapid seemed more appealing than hanging out with a bunch of cranky collectors. But I could be wrong.
I would say that was for sure one reason it declined. Another being the old school fans have moved on. The biggest probably just being all message boards are dying. Facebook has killed them as its just so much more convenient for most people.
Grimtale wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:47 pm Hasn't this been the case with every indie label releases? I don't think the phenomenon you are describing is unique to Grimtale, I think its indicative of the whole vinyl/indie/limited edition craze we have all gone through the past few years. No different than TMR or any other indie label I've followed.
You certainly have to be willing to take some abuse posting anything sincere here.anonymousbrunette wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:34 pm I thought Swirl declined because a few assholes made it a pretty unpleasant place for a while and someone decided to create a Facebook cult that while saccharine and vapid seemed more appealing than hanging out with a bunch of cranky collectors. But I could be wrong.
Good luck Shane! Money doesn't give people and objects value. This is why TCGB is a nonprofit. The music has to get out there. Always release the music.shaneoftheroad wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:15 amYou certainly have to be willing to take some abuse posting anything sincere here.anonymousbrunette wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:34 pm I thought Swirl declined because a few assholes made it a pretty unpleasant place for a while and someone decided to create a Facebook cult that while saccharine and vapid seemed more appealing than hanging out with a bunch of cranky collectors. But I could be wrong.
And my label is about to release three new records this year. They won't sell. I'll lose money. But fuck it. Why not?
Cranky collectors, my kind of peeps.anonymousbrunette wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:34 pmI thought Swirl declined because a few assholes made it a pretty unpleasant place for a while and someone decided to create a Facebook cult that while saccharine and vapid seemed more appealing than hanging out with a bunch of cranky collectors. But I could be wrong.Stl_ben wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:20 pmI agree this has happened with lots of labels over the last few years. TMR is an excellent example as we can all see how Dead Swirl is here in general. But yeah I think once any label shutters its doors and stops releasing new stuff it often really hurts the market. But again thats not just this hobby, for instance I collect art work by Olly Moss and as he has changed career paths and stopped making print art it has really put a damper on the demand for his previous worker that at one time (similar to grimtale releases) was very in demand. But once again with both his stuff, the best and brightest pieces still are very much in demand, its the lesser pieces that people wanted just for the "whole set" that dropped.Grimtale wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:47 pm Hasn't this been the case with every indie label releases? I don't think the phenomenon you are describing is unique to Grimtale, I think its indicative of the whole vinyl/indie/limited edition craze we have all gone through the past few years. No different than TMR or any other indie label I've followed.