Jack White 2014-2015 Contract and Tour Rider

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elduderino wrote:no one thinks Jack and Jack's camp is over-reacting much?
I think they clearly over-reacted. In particular, Jack's on stage reaction to the OU Daily article was an emotional response that went too far.

First off, none of the details were remotely embarrassing - on the scale of crazy rockstar behavior, a guacamole recipe and an aversion to bananas hardly merit a blip. He didn't overcharge them - if anything they got a heck of a deal. $80,000 will not deliver very many A-List musical acts. There's really nothing there to be angry about.

Secondly, the article came from a school newspaper. Not even the students care about the University paper. Had Jack not drawn attention to the article himself, odds are none of us would even know it existed. Instead, Jack's over-reaction got the story spread across the country.

Of course we are talking about Jack White, so it's entirely possible he was intentionally blowing it up just for the free round of publicity.
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BigBayBlue wrote:$80,000 will not deliver very many A-List musical acts.
do you have a price list?
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bh1644 wrote:
BigBayBlue wrote:$80,000 will not deliver very many A-List musical acts.
do you have a price list?
http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/05/w ... itll-cost/
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cwja wrote:
bh1644 wrote:
BigBayBlue wrote:$80,000 will not deliver very many A-List musical acts.
do you have a price list?
http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/05/w ... itll-cost/
cool thanks...

looks like they compiled that from here...
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cobytate wrote:
Alabama Woody wrote:
elduderino wrote:no one thinks Jack and Jack's camp is over-reacting much?
I do not
+1

the tone of the original article was negative and accusatory on the whole, on top of being poorly written. i think if the story had a more “hey this is interesting” kind of lighthearted feel to it, or even the pure-vanilla professional and journalistic tone they claimed was their intention, that this whole thing would have passed quietly under the radar.
I agree. The students' alleged problem wasn't (or shouldn't have been) even with JW, but with the university for paying his fee, while the rider itself was totally standard. But the article was slanted negatively against JW himself, who had only committed the crime of wanting to be paid for his services and fed when he got there. I don't blame him for pointing out their pioneering journalism simply revealed them to be a bunch of immature and irresponsible dicks. And btw, best show of the tour, IMO. :D Thanks for firing him up, OU Daily!


(I should mention, though, that HE may have felt he said too much, as the next night he said absolutely nothing at all, except in the encore to briefly introduce the band, including himself--Jack White from Detroit, now living in Nashville--and to encourage the students to take a philosophy course. That's it.)
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Nobody is bothered that they misspelled Lazaretto on the rider?
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I also agree that 80.000$ is ridiculously low for an act like Jack.
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bh1644 wrote:
cwja wrote:
bh1644 wrote:
BigBayBlue wrote:$80,000 will not deliver very many A-List musical acts.
do you have a price list?
http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/05/w ... itll-cost/
cool thanks...

looks like they compiled that from here...
$1 million+ for Bon Jovi?!? I'm not surprised, but still...
when roles are reversed, opinions are too.
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At least we can cross out Jack being afraid of bananas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvTKuLOhLE
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looks like jack had enough...

For God Sakes!
Posted by Third Man on 15 February 2015
dear journalists and other people looking for drama or a diva,

even in the age of the short attention span internet article, it’s still hard to believe you are STILL writing about this:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2015/0 ... st-wont-do

wow. classy.

seems like there’s a new rule number one for up and coming journalists: don't let the facts get in the way of click bait. at the risk of incurring even more of this hoo haa (and i’ve definitely turned my cheek more than once lately) and even though our management sent out a letter to clarify this, and since this seems to be all anyone can ask me about lately, here’s the real deal, and hopefully it’ll explain this nonsensical scenario and we can move on with our lives. (or what have you).

first off, this is none of your business, but i have no specific demands in my dressing room. i know i could ask for lots of things but i actually don't ask for ANYTHING. i take with me what i need, and that ain't much. anything on the rider is for the band and the crew. this "guacamole recipe" is my hilarious tour managers inside joke with the local promoters, it’s his recipe, not mine. it’s just something to break up the boredom, seeing who can make it best. though i wouldn’t know because i’ve never had it. i can’t even make kool aid let alone cook any real food enough to have a “recipe.” sorry, i don't have that talent.

bananas: did it occur to anyone someone on the tour might have an allergy to them? no? hmmm. one day some fantasy journalist out there will call someone in the biz and actually have a rider explained to them, maybe none of them have ever been on tour. oh well, let’s move on, first amendment issues: i fully believe in the freedom of the press (though the supposed search for truth from the press requires microscopes and a some morton salt), and i also defend anyone’s right to free speech (just look at my lack of respect for grammar in this letter and tell me i’m not for communicating freely) and i defend the right to free information in regards to public funds, but never in my 20 years of playing shows has my contract and tour rider been published in the paper that i recall.

do you know why we don't do that or want that? a hundred articles about bananas, free speech, and guacamole is why; it’s because people don't understand what a rider is or what the terms of a contract are. they’re out of their element, and you can’t blame them for it. and people who write about that know this. people WANT a rider to be a list of demands that a diva insists occur lest he or she refuse to play a note of music.

but in reality, it’s just some food and drinks backstage for the hundred workers and guests who have to live in a concrete bunker for 15 hours. some people bring their own living rooms on tour, some people ask for a huge spread. who cares? what you’re looking for is someone throwing a tantrum because they didn’t get their brown m and m’s, sorry to disappoint.

someone printed that i’m never going to oklahoma again? not true. i love oklahoma, that’s why i booked this show instead of playing chicago or atlanta for four times as much money. ask around in tulsa. i’ve been there at least three times on these last two albums. i love it there. our booking agent warned the college that other artists might not book shows there? of course they did, it’s bad business what that school paper did and really rude. of course they are going to tell them to wise up.

am i pissed at the students at oklahoma university? absolutely not. am i disappointed in young journalists at their school paper? absolutely. but i forgive them, they’re young and have learned their lesson about truth and ethics hopefully. all they have to do is google this to know that it’s not worth it. look for real problems instead next time. look for the truth, not fake drama. i got pissed during my show and berated the crowd? no. sorry, didn’t happen. i made jokes about the paper publishing that info, so which of us is thin skinned? they have freedom of speech but i don't? at my show? ok. i guess the rules change for different people. the crowd were amazing and we played for 2 and a half hours that night. people were told to delete photos on their camera? i dont know much about that but it must be a miscommunication about what was public property at the college and the contract we had with the university to let us do our work in peace; but i’ll give you an example, if someone working at a theater we played at started taking pictures of all of our workers and our gear they’d probably get fired by their theater or promoter. sorry to the student paper budding press papparazzi on that one, but is this a tmz assignment or can you give us some peace while we try to put on a show for the students? give us a break man.

i know it’s a fun thing for people to try to turn me into a jerk and a diva, but in this case it’s pretty ridiculous and has almost nothing to do with me. my relationship with the fans at that show and how we got to a new place together through music remains intact and i’d love to do it again with them.

i think that’s everything, can i go back to making music now? no? ok. crochet it is.

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It's sad as hell that NPR, of all sources, pushed him to this point. I would hope that the media will let him have the last word, though you know this is just going to generate 100 new click-bait articles tomorrow morning, at least 2/3 of which will include the word "rant". Sad, sad, sad.
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Ironically this will bring on even more articles about the rider, and they will take this response for diva & anger behavior too.
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You know, I can see why the man feels like he wants to be forcibly isolated from the world for a while...
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grumblestiltskin wrote:You know, I can see why the man feels like he wants to be forcibly isolated from the world for a while...
This is exactly what no one, media and many fans alike, thinks about when they turn things like this into a joke all over the place. But, y'know, he's a celebrity, so who cares?
"And the message is clear: if we want Jack White as our hero, he will entertain, but not pander. We have to accept all his flaws, whims, caprices and manias as a critical, sometimes uncomfortable, part of the contract."
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Datch wrote:Ironically this will bring on even more articles about the rider, and they will take this response for diva & anger behavior too.
Yeah he comes off as pretty irritated and I think that's going to cause more articles about him being a diva.

I love how he ended the letter though. Hopefully that will show most readers that he's sarcastic and has a sense of humour..not a diva.
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