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The question about Racs songs, though, is-- How many of the lyrics are Jack's? They've said before that he plays guitar parts that Brendan wrote, Brendan sings melodies Jack wrote, etc. Lyrics could very well be the same scenario. Most of Jack's writing seems to be pretty distinctive, but I'm not familiar enough with Brendan's songwriting to pick out lyrics in tunes Jack sings that might be his.Arran_Ramone wrote:All of "You Don't Understand Me". (Who is the fool? The fool or the fool that you are fooling?) Yet another song that really has an emotional connection to me.
I think that's really a testament to Jack's talent as a song writer... His songs have so many levels to them, and they become so important to so many different people for so many different reasons.
Kali Durga wrote:The question about Racs songs, though, is-- How many of the lyrics are Jack's? They've said before that he plays guitar parts that Brendan wrote, Brendan sings melodies Jack wrote, etc. Lyrics could very well be the same scenario. Most of Jack's writing seems to be pretty distinctive, but I'm not familiar enough with Brendan's songwriting to pick out lyrics in tunes Jack sings that might be his.Arran_Ramone wrote:All of "You Don't Understand Me". (Who is the fool? The fool or the fool that you are fooling?) Yet another song that really has an emotional connection to me.
I think that's really a testament to Jack's talent as a song writer... His songs have so many levels to them, and they become so important to so many different people for so many different reasons.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. The man is too often overlooked as a lyricist.Arran_Ramone wrote:For Jack's song writing talent, I meant that more generally over all of his music-Arran_Ramone wrote:I think that's really a testament to Jack's talent as a song writer... His songs have so many levels to them, and they become so important to so many different people for so many different reasons.
This, too.anonymousbrunette wrote:Probably stating the obvious here, but the Raconteurs intrigue is B & J's combined songwriting ability. Would really enjoy a new album from them AND a tour.
That does sound very similar!chaptertwentyone wrote:I suppose this is the right place for this?
So while doing some of my course work I stumbled upon the title of a book which I didn't know, Song of Solomon.
I figured I'd be the studious type and do some research on it in order to have a better understanding of the piece that referenced it.
Well, from what I started to read I saw some striking smiliarities to "Carolina Drama".
It's all there, the Milkman, III, violence, etc.
All speculation of course, but maybe some influence for that song came from this work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_Solomon_(novel)
I once read Billy himself is the milkman. Could be if you think about it, i'll try to search for the explanation.koala wrote:That does sound very similar!chaptertwentyone wrote:I suppose this is the right place for this?
So while doing some of my course work I stumbled upon the title of a book which I didn't know, Song of Solomon.
I figured I'd be the studious type and do some research on it in order to have a better understanding of the piece that referenced it.
Well, from what I started to read I saw some striking smiliarities to "Carolina Drama".
It's all there, the Milkman, III, violence, etc.
All speculation of course, but maybe some influence for that song came from this work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_Solomon_(novel)
So by saying "If you must know the truth about the tale... Go and ask the milkman" he means that no one can actually know what the real TRUTH is, just their own version of the story?
I guess I have accomplished my life's goal of finding out who the milkman is now
That reminds me of one of the old Letters From the White Stripes that Jack wrote. The date on this one was August 2003, here's the pertinent excerpt--koala wrote:That does sound very similar!chaptertwentyone wrote:I suppose this is the right place for this?
So while doing some of my course work I stumbled upon the title of a book which I didn't know, Song of Solomon.
I figured I'd be the studious type and do some research on it in order to have a better understanding of the piece that referenced it.
Well, from what I started to read I saw some striking smiliarities to "Carolina Drama".
It's all there, the Milkman, III, violence, etc.
All speculation of course, but maybe some influence for that song came from this work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_Solomon_(novel)
So by saying "If you must know the truth about the tale... Go and ask the milkman" he means that no one can actually know what the real TRUTH is, just their own version of the story?
I guess I have accomplished my life's goal of finding out who the milkman is now
three people are sitting on a bench, one of them, let's call her amazing says to one of the others, let's call him mr. Cotton, don't you think that the sun burns beautifully? and mr. Cotton replies (truthfully this time) well amazing, is it not my right to deny the beauty of the sun, even when it shines in my face?, must I always agree with you for you are my mother? amazing replies, it is impossible for mother and son to always have the same opinions, but until you are of an age when your experience proves you worthy, when I doth say the sun shines sweetly, thou must reply ‘‘as you see it mother, as you see it, it does!’’”” now there are no problems here so far, children will want their freedom, and will challenge the authority at times as their minds grow closer to maturity, this is not disputed. But the third person had something interesting to say. Her name was exemplify, and she was not happy at the state of the union. She quietly spoke”” don’’t you both know that there are three truths?”” amazing and mr. Cotton said ““no we have not heard of this.”” exemplify then states and I quote ““one truth is what your own perception is, the other truth is what the collective perception is, and the third truth is THE truth, the only one that cannot bend and is constant for as long as the object, feeling, emotion, or instance lasts, this is the truth that only god knows, and that we only pretend to comprehend.””
A silence fell on the other two, they had stopped twitching their legs on the bench, and the air was humid now, but pleasantly. The bench was now a truth in three different ways. Were they in line with the one true truth, or were their own perceptions being clouded by outside influence. ““Is it wrong to state anything at this point?”” said mr. Cotton. Bewildered. Mother knows best and calmed him with a stroke of her arm on his shoulder. They were in this together. Exemplify laughed and slowly rose, the bench turned blood red and the beast within exemplify showed itself only for a second, the eyes turned white and the others looked as if they didn’’t know what they saw what they saw what they saw, exemplify excused herself and walked off. Mother and child did not mention to each other what they thought they saw. Each one debating alone, afraid to bring to light what they may not have known to be true.